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- musicdisk Windows TheEnd by ErrorSoft
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You mention "crisis of viewers".
This kind of crap is exactly what brings this crisis about. Who wants to dig through a shitload of crap like this (oh it's coming) to get to the good stuff? You, my friend, and people "reasoning" like you will put an end to the demoscene.
It always seemed to me that the demoscene was created for fun and experimentation with technology, and not for endless discussions of "really good things".
New AI tools inspired me to make several prods, I got fun the audience and had fun myself.
Before that, I had not shown any activity on scene for several years. It was the AI that inspired me to do something, what's wrong with that?
Or is the demoscene now only for abstruse museum critics? - isokadded on the 2024-05-12 16:32:19
- musicdisk Windows TheEnd by ErrorSoft
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You can now! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1m-wtD2etI
Unfortunately, there is "clipped" version on YouTube, that not allows you to get the full impression of the prod. I recommend the original EXE release. - isokadded on the 2024-05-02 09:48:58
- musicdisk Windows TheEnd by ErrorSoft
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How often does this happen? Do you have any examples?
Just look at the winners of recent years in Amiga, C64, ZX and other retro PC on big parties.
But what am I talking about, PC demos are now created in Unity and weigh gigabytes, because... no one wants to spend time creating their own 3D engine.
Now demo is not the effort of the coder that is in charge, but the overall design and vision of the authors.
Why is using AI to create products that otherwise would not have been created at all bad?
I was amazed at what can be created with AI alone and decided to demonstrate it. This is my artistic idea, a demonstration of what was impossible to even imagine yesterday. - isokadded on the 2024-05-02 09:45:07
- demo Amiga OCS/ECS TM2: Attack of the Ego Bots by Zymosis
- Once upon a time, demoscene proved to the whole world that computer art is art. Now demoscene is trying to prove that AI art is not art.
It’s just sad to watch how demoscene struggles with new technologies, knowing that demoscene was once on the edge of progress.
Discussions on the topic of "theft" in the demoscene are simply ridiculous. Demoscene has always been about the theft of music and graphics from “real artists”. If the author "takes a picture from the AI" and not "copy a Marvel movie poster" for prod, then we will receive less "theft".
Also, After all, the demoscene originated from "piracy". It's stupid to pretend that this didn't happen.
The fact that AI takes away work from artists is really a problem, but not in demoscene, there is no "real work" here, this is a non-profit activity for fun. If someone enjoys with AI, that's good. - rulezadded on the 2024-05-02 07:53:40
- musicdisk Windows TheEnd by ErrorSoft
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it's not "the end" because what a huge part of the scene judges is not the result but the effort and the applied craft.
If effort is the main thing, then why "stylish animated demos" often win, but real-time demos with complex code is lose?
Quote:about the result itself - even without using AIs I would consider this prod as a quite lame production.
I don't know how to write music, but with the advent of AI I was able to realize my ideas. Isn’t the demoscene about the implementation of any crazy ideas? - isokadded on the 2024-05-02 04:39:19
- musicdisk Windows TheEnd by ErrorSoft
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Not always. Sampling popular music for tracker-instruments was okay. (for example the drums from „Cream Of The Earth“ or „Rise Up“)
Yes, you're right, this is exactly what I'm talking about, demoscene is literally littered with "copies" of works from the "real world", often without credits the original author. But everyone is "ok", but if we are talking about AI, then discussions about "bad ripoff" immediately begin. - isokadded on the 2024-05-01 23:14:16
- musicdisk Windows TheEnd by ErrorSoft
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lol, your AI is sooo previous gen
This is my artistic vision - isokadded on the 2024-05-01 22:51:16
- musicdisk Windows TheEnd by ErrorSoft
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I'm neither here for the production nor the consumption of bad ripoffs.
Where can I read about specific criteria for "bad rip offs"? - isokadded on the 2024-05-01 22:40:08
- musicdisk Windows TheEnd by ErrorSoft
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Noisy audio with female vocals, blended together from 1000000 voices, bad stirling ripoff with annoying sound design and progression, elevator music
Sorry, but the demoscene is literally all about "bad ripoff".
I am ready to discuss about any problems of AI in the demoscene, except nonsense about "mixing", in a demoscene based on "mixing other people’s works".
Does a cool Amiga track become trash because all the samples there were "borrowed"? - isokadded on the 2024-05-01 21:47:07
- 1k invitation procedural graphics Playstation CC2024 invitation by Realm Of Illusion [web]
- Just cool!
- rulezadded on the 2024-04-30 07:50:33
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