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Scene.se Datapata playlist http://open.spotify.com/user/orbiter/playlist/23TOraYsI62E4g9o0d3Bc3

Orbiter : thanks ! check da playlists here http://www.mp3-fr.com/spot/index_alldate.php3 :)

well, I don't know about kaneel's experiences with last.fm (or indeed whether he even has any) but I've certainly had great recommendations from the service, not even just from the same labels! strange, that. unsurprisingly, it works better the more data you feed it.

I totally wish Spotify had these recommendations somehow integrated to it too. now Spotify is just a full-length iTunes preview for me :)

nice full previews :) haha I found an old Melon demo http://kestra.exotica.org.uk/demo.php?id=10694 , great time :)

knl:
Yeah, I didn't say the Similar Artists feature in Spotify was any good, but at least they're trying :)

Anyway, I can scrobble tracks from Spotify and Last.fm has pretty excellent recommendation system, so they work together pretty well. I don't really need any recommendation system to Spotify.

@ricky: All i'm experiencing with last.fm and it keeps saying I'm sounding like guys I'm not sounding like but actually, yes, we were on the same compilations... :|
Indeed, I didn't release much, so it can't be precise. So again, its not working, again, its false, again, only already known people will get well recommended to people.

But yeah, they improve their engine I guess, considering whats inside the music manager backoffice...

Don't forget, you've got to die to be a genius ;)

It's quite hard to be known since years and years, even with Internet.. Too much people, one chosen (Gregoire or shitty popstars like La Tortue in France: LAME LAME LAME LAME LAME LAME..)

I guess it's a Big Lucky Lottery for people living from their music.

Since years, electronic music seems to be free for me.. Even more free with spotify, deezer, jiwa, ...

And on audiofanzine or many other music sites, thousands of cool people like XFormz are doing GREAT tracks for the fun, selling nothing.

Remember guys, since the advent of recordings, you're not only competing with your contemporaries, but with your ancestors as well.

.. in before Timbaland?

Xformz? Who's that guy?
Are you opening threads on pouet for spamming your friends' materials? :p

knl : no spam just top of the roots :) XFormz just made some of the best C64 remixes like Comic bakery, The Great Bath : listen to this one, it's HUGE http://www.x-formz.com/music/

Really, I don't give a damn fuck.
Nobody should dare touching "comic bakery" except PPOT.

I'd prefer * Joe Satriani * or one other from the Top 10 guitarists, for comic bakery and other classics :) These tracks could make a torrent of fans for the guitar scene

/thread.

just noticed there's Pale Ravine and Neon City by Deaf Center on spotify!

Been paying for spotify for half a year and I think it's the best service I've ever used.

The client just works and don't get in my way. I personally think there is a lot of music in there that I listen to daily. If an artist don't choose to be on spotify I dismiss that artist and let them die in their corner.

If I want to find new music I take something I like, then check if they are on any collection cd's, then listen to songs on that collection and moves on, or listen to advice from my friends like in the real world you know... "have you heard this great one?" etc.

Some good songs I've found through spotify:
http://open.spotify.com/track/7J6tUHeyWzBbgEUOdifOdn
http://open.spotify.com/track/6eTGxxQxiTFE6LfZHC33Wm
http://open.spotify.com/track/7oGgBSOLoitk7u4nd1fu14
http://open.spotify.com/track/4Cr52SfCYoUUubmxdm6q7x
http://open.spotify.com/track/7ev9rc9Vv2Wb4JeGSY6SVR

And you know, if you don't like spotify, stop using it.

I enjoy Spotify as well as the next person, but as a musician, don't expect to make anything from being played there, apart from "exposure". The thing is: we are rapidly approaching the point where people stop thinking "Oh, this was good - I'll buy his CD/tracks on iTunes" and just go "Oh, this was good *adds to Spotify playlist*".

How about, "Oh, this is good, I want to see this live" ;)

spotify pays like last.fm. Last.fm gave me 36 dollars for 36.000 requested radioplays last 3 months. yay..... difference is that last.fm is free in half the world and the rest pays 3 dollars per month, spotify is afaik 10dollars/month no?

ah, the difference is that last.fm pays directly and doesnt go through royaltycollectionshit like SACEM/STIM etc like spotify does. But what ive heard is that spotify pays different labels different, for example, any artist on sony gets next to 0, and sony is sitting on alot of spotifystocks.

teel: Playing live isn't an option for most musicians - and even if they could, the odds of them playing somewhere close to that one random fan is practically zero.

I prefer the option where actual listens are rewarded to the musician (yes, the musician, not the label or whoever).

Well, being more popular will get you more chances to do live gigs. I'm not disagreeing with what you said, just saying that services like that have potential to make good music more popular :)

Besides, only a small fraction from cd sales goes to the musicians pocket anyway. So there must be better options for musicians (not saying that Spotify is).

teel: You are right that CD sales are crap. My problem with Spotify (seen from a musicians POV) is that while an iTunes 30 seconds preview, or a full song streamed on MySpace isn't as cool as being in Spotify -- they leave the door open for this wonderful thing called "You can download my music as MP3, just pay me directly via PayPal"-thing that actually started to gain traction. When you have Spotify in your mobile phone and on all your computers, who are going to bother doing that? Sure, some people will, but probably not a lot. So that leaves people who want the coverart or a physical CD, who then buy it (if you're lucky :) -- better self-publish then, otherwise you get "nothing".

But.. it's indeed complicated, and there probably is no right solution.

"No one right solution"