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In essence this topic is as old as the demo scene itself.

Take the Hurricane 1992 party who didnt pay all price money for example. It was a huge stir back than and written about in diskmags all around.

Thumb for Temis for reacting so fast here ! Hoerah! :)

http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Hurricane_and_Brutal_Summer_Party_'92


:-)

Dear Retarded followers of the demoscene,

please shut the hell up.

temis: you beeing shocked is utterly bullshit aswell. I wont let you pose as that, not after a year of beeing ignored.

christ, what an attitude. so the nvision team has some problems getting the finances right, no need to act like a total dick about it as for crying out loud.. you fucking sound like as if you signed a multimillion contract that got shoved up your arse...

and remember: DON'T LOOK A GIVEN HORSE IN THE MOUTH! XD

And notice that he even opened a thread called "The demoscene aint about getting everything served on a silver plate" 5 years ago :P

People who don't know anything about the whole story and the countless emails and issues that have been going on for over a year now should refrain themselves from commenting on that subject, really, whether it's pro or against nvidia.

Dude, the guy opened a thread on pouet.net about it. What do you expect?

exactly THAT.

shifter: the demobox upgraded me from shader model 1.x to shader model 4.0! My old gear was good for some GBA prods, but I had wanted to try and push some real high-end DX10 gear for a while but wouldnt have bought that for another while.

SPOT ON - you now have the rights to my firstborn whenever you want

You settle money disputes in court not on pouet ffs. Lamers.

Hatikvah: moron.

Puryx: Bitfellas called

never won money with poker? or won the lottery? or a car from some 0800-GUESSTHEWORD? that 30% tax applies on any WON sum of money. just that a party like evoke or bp pay it straight out of their cashflow keeps you from paying that 30%, but since nvision is part of a bigger organisation i guess they wanna keep their finances a tad more official and ergo you have to cough up that 30% prizemoney-tax. they might have misjudged it in advance but dear lord, this 'let's complain on pouet about it and see what that'll get us' is sad. in fact, i hope they shove that remainder of money up your ass (in 1 cents) and i truly hope that this doesnt affect the involved commercial parties at all in a negative way or we ALL have to pay sponsorship-tickets for certain big demoparties AGAIN just cos they no longer feel the need to help us all out.

<what maali said in a slighty less controversial tone>

maali: its not about the actuall cash. It's about trying to find out what's happening, and just getting ignored. Over and over again. This is not acceptable in my opinion (i guess you are more used to take shit from others...? or what). Its more about how we are beeing treated than the money.

I don't even feel that i have been a dick about it, eventough i think you are a bitch about it, and as bitches often are; you seem clueless.

quisten, word!

ok, i can understand that, just that pouet doesn't seem a good medium for that inquiry. but that's just the clueless bitch talking...

I rather like to see companies sponsoring parties than companies sponsoring winners... like the cash should keep you going...

What have we become if/when we get slaves under the money?

I won 10 euros at outline and heck, that was good enough for me. I even left the tomato soup behind. If you need to get awarded with money for your prods, start making indie games. Be happy for what you get but don't whine when you don't. And the whole nvscene thing was redicilous from start to end.

Why should/would ANYONE do this for the sake of money?

I can´t see how claiming a prize that we were promised can be turned into a bad thing.

Personally I thought that the possibility of getting the prize was gone - now, several months later, I hear that some of the winners got their prizes. Then Im wondering, and I think that sounds weird.

Frankly I can´t see how that can be turned into a "omg your´re a money-hungry bastard"-thing

Still... it is not a big drama. So you didn't get 30 %. Get over it.

Also it is very weird to open a thread about it on pouet.net and then get annoyed by people discussing the issue.

Anyway... I'm waiting for the moment we will get the first lawyers specialized in demoscene issues! Because, yeah, they are issues that REALLY matter in life!

thec .. you're on the right track regarding money for parties instead of winners .. but since they already were promised the money, i dont see a problem in them asking for them, you gotta keep what you promise.

Besides that, puryx, more music, less arguing ;)

(probably gonna get killed for that remark ;P )