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lol, that whole 'us demosceners vs """""normal people"""""' mentality is so stupid.

yep, irl it's more like "us demosceners vs them other demosceners"

Actually, it's about ethics in diskmags.

http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=59707 VOZ said it before it was cool!

@ham: well... I never consider myself part of a group although we have all our preferences in life. All I know is life is short and it is in vain to make people change how they are. There are people which we admire and other which we hate... Then, people tend to promote what they feel right and nice.

Does most people would like or care about demos? No... but, does demos should remain forever an underground and obscure things. I don't think so.

In fact, I believe that a teacher related with arts should at least know that this thing exist.

When I think about who should know demos.. I think almost anyone programming for a company related with video game business should know about it! I know however it is not the case... although it is probably the area where most demoscener work in?

panamericans please. legalize could be reading the thread.

I was a demoscener before it was cool

the previous comment was to psenough.

here, for okkie



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Cool glasses. :D

cue for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR5Z4n1TdSI

This thread needs more:

we need a MLP demo with unlimited bobs and rotozoomers.

and mIRC

and second realpony!

Before this thread is hijacked by ponies I'd like to make comment on the decline of the new blood.

As a senior who is attending (US) high school right now, I have been fortunate enough to have taken three years of programming classes. Even before I've stumbled upon the demoscene I've always wanted to create something visually astonishing but also impressive from a technological standpoint. When I saw a 64k demo, I was so impressed that I immediately wanted to make my own. However, my classmates feel differently.They're more interested in the practical application of programming. I go to demoparties, they go to hackathons. And no wonder - they're around every corner of the US. They tout the sponsorships of large companies who offer commercial prizes and opportunities for the most inspirational projects.

Can anyone explain why hackathon's have been more successful in terms of popularity?
Aren't demoparties the same in spirit?

Partly by missing the message?
It was true love from the beginning only 25 years ago and yes I'm leet enough to understand that I'm not leet enough!
Without the ds this planet would be a poor, just (more) wrong place. Adoks 1st post is what I think too.

Didn't you answer your own question? Doing useless realtime-y arty things on computers (that are traditionally seen as work or gaming machines), is a super niche thing, a kind of specialty that is hard to appreciate for standard engineering types, who would rather do the ten million-th Minecraft / Flappy Bird clone in hopes of big mooneys. ;)

second quote, the answer to your question.

Actually, I would say that the term 'software engineer' has devaluated over the years.
A classic engineer (in any sense) will strive for efficiency and elegance, and will certainly see value in what demoscene coders do.

But these days, any webmonkey calls himself a 'software engineer', without the required level of knowledge or mindset of an actual engineer.
We are talking about hipsters etc, who try to emulate real nerds/geeks, without actually understanding the material. So they just do what they THINK is cool and/or what their limited vision and capabilities allow them to do. Which is more along the lines of low-hanging fruit apps, websites and whatnot than something as hardcore and esoteric as the demoscene.

Starbucks killed the demoscene!

Maybe it's because we're referring to them as "new blood".

hi czery: I hope we see you at @party sometime. Corporate support does help events become more visible, but it is also about folks wanting to be visible themselves, and employed. I would love to crosspollinate the hackathon and demoscene, one issue is that hackathons are less about preprep and more about what you do at the event.

Then they might enjoy some fast compos. :D

ham: point taken. I used to have them at the Montréal event.

thing is, if you build it they do not necessarily come. You need to get the right people interested, and then they and their friends come.

I need to do some more outreach to some hackathony types more, I do at my local hackerspace but it isn't doing it. I used to go to all kinds of events/meetups and meet lots of people, but then I started working on my own prods and my willingness to do the social networking piece of party organizing dramatically diminished.