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requires a geforce3, thus i didn't even download it.
added on the 2002-12-15 18:41:49 by robotriot
thanks for sharing!
Damn, time to upgrade some hardware :)
I got a GF3 but it crashed at 80% loading.
too buggy... can see only the half of the demo (P4 1.5GHz + Gf3 + Detonators 41.09 )... sometimes 1-2 fps, sometimes screen explodes...
First try : reboot. And my hardisk stop and then restart. s...
30.82 detonator prefered they said.
Sorry but i don't want to downgrade.
30.82 detonator prefered they said.
Sorry but i don't want to downgrade.
GF3 needed ?
Die and get oldschool releases instead of burning CPU power.
Die and get oldschool releases instead of burning CPU power.
Finally a demo that pushes the current PC hardware.. nice.. very nice.. congratulations..
this is for the feature that hangs up my computer. final version would be nice
buggy?
it crashed here after the title screen (p4 2.4ghz Geforce 4 ti4600)
it crashed here after the title screen (p4 2.4ghz Geforce 4 ti4600)
shifter: i was just making lame excuses for not being able to supply a screenshot :)
asphyx: ehh, you mean GPU ? lamer !
a thumb up for that thumb down!
a thumb up for that thumb down!
pushes? it fuckn dont work! and I got a gf4, so fuck my suck
(all together now): "Probably because you own a GF4 MX, you cheapskate!"
It's a pitty I don't know anyone having a GF3. When the cheap GF4MX solution came into the market, GF3 were never released anymore and the older were sold. But this cheap sollution doesn't have pixel shaders and shit that are needed I guess. Many friends have 4MXs now, but you have to buy the full GF4 to have the pixel shader feautures, which nobody bought cause pure GF4 are too expensive. One friend was thinking to get a 4MX, oneday me too, but I tried to search for a GF3 instead. There is no demo that doesn't run in 2 but runs in 4MX, but few new ones I would love to see, which want's 3 and doesn't run on 4MX. Ok,. ok,. you got what I want to say. It's a pitty, damn Nvidia, I blame the company for not beeing able to find a cheap GF3 now and succeed in watching some prods :P
At least put some screenshots!
At least put some screenshots!
yeah, rulez
it crashed my pc during loading (80%), using
a GF4Ti with 41.09 drivers. please bugfix, it
seems to be worth to watch it!
Optimus: a GF4Ti4200 is now available for 150€, the GF3-Chip seems to be no longer produced, and many new demos need Shaders to run. Perhaps you should upgrade, or we coders should make an alternative .exe for these people, without the effects that are responsable for the look of our demos.
a GF4Ti with 41.09 drivers. please bugfix, it
seems to be worth to watch it!
Optimus: a GF4Ti4200 is now available for 150€, the GF3-Chip seems to be no longer produced, and many new demos need Shaders to run. Perhaps you should upgrade, or we coders should make an alternative .exe for these people, without the effects that are responsable for the look of our demos.
Good demo, but there's still some people who don't have a GF3 or higher.
Loading is too long.... c'est de l'abus un peu ca :)
Loading is too long.... c'est de l'abus un peu ca :)
bah geforece 3 :|
I think its lame to thumb something down, because you don't have the needed hardware to view it.
avi is cool Idea, would appreciate that much. ~_~
avi is cool Idea, would appreciate that much. ~_~
yes, gimme that avi.
I also hate the gf3 requirements, but that will only be as long as I don't have a gf3.
I also hate the gf3 requirements, but that will only be as long as I don't have a gf3.
i did not like the final scene.
the rest is terrific :)
the rest is terrific :)
1 info
The reason it doesnt work with latest drivers is because of a DRIVER BUG!
So all of you yelling that he should patch the demo better yell at nVidia to patch their drivers! Lockup of the pc/bluescreen/reboot should NEVER happen with correct drivers, no matter what you code!
The reason it doesnt work with latest drivers is because of a DRIVER BUG!
So all of you yelling that he should patch the demo better yell at nVidia to patch their drivers! Lockup of the pc/bluescreen/reboot should NEVER happen with correct drivers, no matter what you code!
there's also something called 'omitting others bugs', dear joris plastiekzak.
loading is very long... just wait before 80% and it's good!!
run perfectly on celeron 800 gf4 (the machine compo for this demo...)crach on radeon card..
run perfectly on celeron 800 gf4 (the machine compo for this demo...)crach on radeon card..
very good, nice ambiance...
Loading time is long but its worth the wait. The graphics and atmosphere is great and I hope that other new demos will take advantage of vs and ps too. I not sure what to think of the "depth of field" effect though. I would like to be able to turn it off in a final version :)
i think it's stupid to make a demo that demands hardware that isn't very common, atleast if you don't give some option to turn hardware-dependant effects off or emulate them in some way.. i don't have a gf3 or similar, and even if i did i think it's stupid to code something for a specific card instead of using portable code that can run on similar cards, like the radeon-series from ati (which i am seriously considering buying). i hope to see this demo some day, since the people who has seems to like it, but as i said.. make demos for hardware that people already own. rant rant rant rant.. :)
wow not bad, the depth of field effect works quite well and the scenes (except the last one) are very well done, i liked it. (i dont know if it was the last scene, the sound went off during the girl running towards the guy)
what i dont understand is the loading time.... what on earth can take so long??
(not mentioning the 1 hour i spent trying to make it run)
what i dont understand is the loading time.... what on earth can take so long??
(not mentioning the 1 hour i spent trying to make it run)
shifter: stfu, I have no clue what gf4 it is I won 4 of em at Dreamhack... I dont think its an MX,
Excellent modelling! Nice to see Cocoon in back in the circles and doing the stuff they are best in (Shad is still one of my fave 3d demos).
And for the "I don't have geforce" whiners - you simply can't do stuff like this on a old hardware. Demos are not like games that have to support all differend gfx cards and work on all possible configurations.
And for the "I don't have geforce" whiners - you simply can't do stuff like this on a old hardware. Demos are not like games that have to support all differend gfx cards and work on all possible configurations.
cool! 1st kudos for doing a gef3+ prod. (and heck, it ran & looked really smooth here.. i recommend people with a ti46 to enable supersampling).
the modelling was definitively nice altough a little bit cliche.. neat music, altough i don't like guitars and the style it sounded "well done".
(oh and worked nicely with latest drivers...loading times are a bit high.. gluBuildMipMaps maybe? :) )
the modelling was definitively nice altough a little bit cliche.. neat music, altough i don't like guitars and the style it sounded "well done".
(oh and worked nicely with latest drivers...loading times are a bit high.. gluBuildMipMaps maybe? :) )
Yeah, but can anybody please upload a screenshot?
At least we want to have an idea of what it looks like :)
At least we want to have an idea of what it looks like :)
gloom: it isn't gf3+ specific... at least it works fine here on R9700 :)
gloom: it isn't gf3+ specific... at least it works fine here on R9700 :)
it's very impressive.
Just a little precision about loading time...
Due the fact the demo size had to be in the range of 10Mb, and regarding to the mass of textures, the textures are compressed in DXT5 at loading...
We'll release a version which loads faster, with precompressed textures (but which will take more place on hd)...
We'll release an avi version too, for thoses who don't have recent hardware :)...
Nice to see you soon !
Due the fact the demo size had to be in the range of 10Mb, and regarding to the mass of textures, the textures are compressed in DXT5 at loading...
We'll release a version which loads faster, with precompressed textures (but which will take more place on hd)...
We'll release an avi version too, for thoses who don't have recent hardware :)...
Nice to see you soon !
quite nice. rocked on the bigscreen, atmosphere gave me shivers. but too, ehm, cocoon for me =]
in first i want to mention the rules of the demo competition at SOTA2K2 : the rules was GeForce3ti (a GeForce4200ti was used to show the demos), so no problem about the hardware specific code for me. Don't whining about MX cards, it's cheap gamers cards, never buy it for watching demos.
about the prod, the loading time of 5 minutes sucks, and the loading bar is like windows update with a modem : unispirated and boring. why dont you made a little interesting effect intead ?
music, not music, howling on noize is not my taste, i hate this but respect it
code is good, rythm good, hard work on textures and synchros
textures looks similar in style with Shad2 demo. perhaps too much low poly 3D some times?
the howling clown is well done and remebers the movie/book 'IT'
little girl is cute, except the blood wich ooze
And all this blood and bad feeling makes me ill, vomit, hey Cocoon members : life is beautiful, flowers, rabbits ... take a look to the Teletubbies for inspiration next time ;-)
dont see this before going to bed
nightmarish demo forbidden to childrens under 18. pigface because bad feelings.
about the prod, the loading time of 5 minutes sucks, and the loading bar is like windows update with a modem : unispirated and boring. why dont you made a little interesting effect intead ?
music, not music, howling on noize is not my taste, i hate this but respect it
code is good, rythm good, hard work on textures and synchros
textures looks similar in style with Shad2 demo. perhaps too much low poly 3D some times?
the howling clown is well done and remebers the movie/book 'IT'
little girl is cute, except the blood wich ooze
And all this blood and bad feeling makes me ill, vomit, hey Cocoon members : life is beautiful, flowers, rabbits ... take a look to the Teletubbies for inspiration next time ;-)
dont see this before going to bed
nightmarish demo forbidden to childrens under 18. pigface because bad feelings.
I haven't seen this yet, but I must say that if it doesn't run on current nvidia drivers - I probably won't anyway.
I really like it that people finally start doing things for current hardware, but telling people to downgrade to a specific old driver seriously limits your viewer base.
I really like it that people finally start doing things for current hardware, but telling people to downgrade to a specific old driver seriously limits your viewer base.
There ya go, a screengrab
Rocks, great 3d, music, gfx, everything.
A must watch.
Rocks, great 3d, music, gfx, everything.
A must watch.
Lots of work.
I don't like the music at all (whereas I loved both shade 2's tracks).
The loading is unbearable.
I don't even want to try to launch it on my PC.
worst the watching, but for me one time will be enough.
Nytrik : IMHO the purpose of demos is not to compete with games, it became useless long time ago.
It is time to view demos as a form of art, not only technical demonstration.
I don't like the music at all (whereas I loved both shade 2's tracks).
The loading is unbearable.
I don't even want to try to launch it on my PC.
worst the watching, but for me one time will be enough.
Nytrik : IMHO the purpose of demos is not to compete with games, it became useless long time ago.
It is time to view demos as a form of art, not only technical demonstration.
here we go again, the old so-called 'art' argument. This is proof that technical demonstrations are very possible, and lets face it, i'm sure most people would rather watch something that pushes current hardware, than watch flat shaded cubes or a crappy noise pattern. Its good to see someone putting a lot of time and effort into a demo... not just 1 hr and calling it art.
Sdw, it runs on mine with gf4 ti4200 with latest nvidias.
Sdw, it runs on mine with gf4 ti4200 with latest nvidias.
really amazing. I love it. Even that it's definately not at all in a style that I usually dig.
I LOVE YOUR STYLE. I'm a pig in english so i can't explain what i mean, so juste : good job, excellent demo...
not my piece of cake. i find it boring after a while. and all those noisy sounds...
on the other hand, it's nice to see people doing gf3 demos these days, why we have to wait until they become obsolet? :)
on the other hand, it's nice to see people doing gf3 demos these days, why we have to wait until they become obsolet? :)
I really dislike the music and the theme is kinda .. dull. But its a nice demo and it has obviously been a lot of hard work for the guys. Keep it up!!
redempted at 46%
Lots of work. Lots of good work. Nice modelling and facial animation, not so good walk&run animation. Some baaad design (like the tvs the girl's running around). Cocoonish-theme, no "clear" story so it becomes boring, and frustrating at the end. Awful music. Stupid loader, over-excessive-loading time (i won't even try to run it on my pc because of this)... Hope it'll be the last one in this style.
I have GF3, it has froze my computer and restarted my computer now at 80%
'Raw.exe a rencontré un problème et doit fermer. Nous vous prions de nous excuser pour le désagrément encouru."
-> with a ATI Radeon 8500 on startup Good Work COCOON :(
-> with a ATI Radeon 8500 on startup Good Work COCOON :(
another cocoon release.
as haujobb does visualice, cocoon does nytrik...
as haujobb does visualice, cocoon does nytrik...
Well, WinXP Pro here on a VIA Apollo Pro 133T and a P3/1466 with 512mb ram, Geforce 4 Ti 4200/64 and 30.82 detonators. Guess what, it starts playing and right after the handicapped/crucified little girl, it freezes. Moments later WinXP says that it lost(?) the vga card and switches on a generic vga driver, requiring a reboot. Wow! I didn't know demos could do that! :-P
hey stop ranting about technical issues and focus on the product will ya ? :)
its pechu and i like it :)
its pechu and i like it :)
reboot with a HD stall on 3 different detonator versions.. (21.85, 30.30, 41.09)
The style is not my cup of coffee... Viva the Happy Lol. Like Gregos said at the Sota 'I don't want to see demos that will make my children cry in 2 or 3 years...'
it kindly rebooted my machine without asking (WinXP, 1Gb RAM, Det 41.09, GF4Ti 4600)
Some nice rendering techniques and stuff, but there's no excuse for the too fucking long loading time. It also freezes for a few seconds in some parts (ti4600/xp1900+/256mb).
The nytrik concept is pushed very far. Impressive demo, as much in term of technical coding and artwork than hardware requirement =P
Sadly i won't be able to run this one untill i buy a new machine... Who said "same as with games industry" ?
Sadly i won't be able to run this one untill i buy a new machine... Who said "same as with games industry" ?
Yeah a great demo ... i was impressed on the big screen, unfortunatly i can't run it on my Athlon 2000+/GF4ti4200/512Mo, but it's seem to be a known bug who 'll be fix one day =)
next cocoon release in 2 years or before ? =)
next cocoon release in 2 years or before ? =)
for slow loading times they said 200 textures.
objective points:
* great modelling and movement
* lip sync was quite bad
* original music (for a demo, that is)
* lots of ideas borrowed from metal videos
subjective points:
* i do like horror movies and stuff but this time it was too excessive
* i dont really dig metal and this kind of dull style at all
thus, thumb down as i cant enjoy it to save my life.
however, if this was for a review, i would definately thumb it up, lots of work (at prize giving they told it was in the making for 2 years) and overall style and visuals are well balanced, good sync, dynamic etc.
ok, so perhaps no thumb at all...
Rocked on bigscreen, and was overall impressive. The only little problem it has, is the walking animation of the models.
it's tenshu style demo nice work man!!
real nice modelling and code.. the music fits the demo thought, but isn't my prefered style at all =)
(stop whining about the use of gf3+, it has been around for a while now, so why not use it's 'new' featuires? programmable hw is the future anyway..)
(stop whining about the use of gf3+, it has been around for a while now, so why not use it's 'new' featuires? programmable hw is the future anyway..)
nice but DO transitions, not just scene flipping :)
F***in' hell! Nice textures and models and a good soundtrack. Using hw features can be stunning but still, it would be nice to be able to disable all hw dependent effects so all sceners will be able to watch it. Would be sad if some demos would be only GeForce and some only Radeon if you know what I mean. The only bad thing with the prod is as shash said, animation. The girl running up the stairs looks like she was animated by a girl her own age (bad that is).
okay managed to get it running with 30.82 drivers, but it crashed after the 'crucified rag doll' scene..
Wow, this demo is REALLY buggy.
I tried running it on my WinXP install with 41.09. In fullscreen it quits at 40%, in window it gets to 80% and then I get illegal operation.
I then tried under my win98 bott with 29.42 drivers. Now it actually started, music played but screen was just garbage graphics, and then it locked up.
So I downloaded 30.82, installed, ran the demo, and now I actually got to see a cocoon logo-part, then after 10 seconds - hardlock.
A friendly suggestion is to try to testrun your demos on multiple configurations during the development phase.
I tried running it on my WinXP install with 41.09. In fullscreen it quits at 40%, in window it gets to 80% and then I get illegal operation.
I then tried under my win98 bott with 29.42 drivers. Now it actually started, music played but screen was just garbage graphics, and then it locked up.
So I downloaded 30.82, installed, ran the demo, and now I actually got to see a cocoon logo-part, then after 10 seconds - hardlock.
A friendly suggestion is to try to testrun your demos on multiple configurations during the development phase.
I'm bi afraid of the "make an .avi" idea.
Are you sure this won't be using codec that nobody has or that crashes when you have it ?
:))
Are you sure this won't be using codec that nobody has or that crashes when you have it ?
:))
port it to xbox
nice thing !
want avi.
me too.
want a gif animation - plz no exotic/unknown codec :)
It maked by Windows 2k core dumps at first attempt, but after some 30.82 patching it worked fine. This is a very kewl demo, that actually uses my hardware so that's nice.
I'm bored to see games that routinely use my hardware in a nicest way than most recent demos (NoOneLiveForever 2 has awesomely detailed characters with finely crafted textures), so that one at least restore the balance.
Loading time is boring anyway ;)
I'm bored to see games that routinely use my hardware in a nicest way than most recent demos (NoOneLiveForever 2 has awesomely detailed characters with finely crafted textures), so that one at least restore the balance.
Loading time is boring anyway ;)
want a cookie.
c'est l'eclate sur pouet pour les reglements de compte...
trop bon les forums en ce moment...
trop bon les forums en ce moment...
ouais d'ailleurs RR n'est qu'nu con qui a fini devant moi a la sota :( c'est NUL . je me CASSE.
Sinon pour reprendre une juste remarque entendue à propos de la raw confession : pourquoi ne pas avoir mis le loader a la fin ?
;)
Sinon pour reprendre une juste remarque entendue à propos de la raw confession : pourquoi ne pas avoir mis le loader a la fin ?
;)
With 41.09 detonators it returns to the desktop at 80% loading. Next, I think, I will try a voodoo ceremony in my room to make it run :-)
crash at starting on my pc...
i want a final. or an avi. or a final avi.
or a correct -new- detonator driver, as i don't want to downgrade, or any solution.
i want to watch this one.
or a correct -new- detonator driver, as i don't want to downgrade, or any solution.
i want to watch this one.
people who install beta drivers should just shut up. :)
don't care about requirements or whatever.
artists digging even deeper into their obsessions, that is.
me likey :)
artists digging even deeper into their obsessions, that is.
me likey :)
I don't see why the demos shouldn't use new hardware. It's a way to try something new, and demonstrate what they are able to.
Anyways, a thumb up for this production. Even though there are a LOT of textures and it's 10 Mb, I still think it is great. Very dark!
What I also is that there is something to look at, if you watch it several times. Try to notice the bodies hanging when the girl runs in the end. Very nice job Cocoon :)
Anyways, a thumb up for this production. Even though there are a LOT of textures and it's 10 Mb, I still think it is great. Very dark!
What I also is that there is something to look at, if you watch it several times. Try to notice the bodies hanging when the girl runs in the end. Very nice job Cocoon :)
Good work Cocoon Guys! You returned to your favorite style and I like it! It seems you create Doom3 before its release ;) But Too often I have a black screen! Perhaps a lack of ram (256mb).
took ages to load on my machine (~6 minutes, that's about as long as the total running time of an average demo). and then crashed after the title screen (duron 650, radeon8500).
anyway, one would expect demos to be higher quality by now. let's wait for the final version...
anyway, one would expect demos to be higher quality by now. let's wait for the final version...
after some additional tweaking (it seemingly doesn't like the d3d debug runtime), i got it (halfway) to work. some of the scenes look pretty much ok now, but there are lots of (i think :) overlays that just look totally fucked up, and lots of black screens inbetween aswell. let's wait for the final.
.avi :(
very nice demo. just a quick vote of respect for the effort and original theme
doesn't start!
(amd athlon 1.33ghz 512mb gf3 (NV20 rev 3) winxp. dx8.1 retail)
I want a final =)
(amd athlon 1.33ghz 512mb gf3 (NV20 rev 3) winxp. dx8.1 retail)
I want a final =)
yes! it's 100% rox!
Nice models, but it was really boring and I don't like the music.
Altough I watched this with Radeon 9000 pro and the pictures or whatever were just noise. Otherwise looked like it was working ok. Thus a piggie.
Altough I watched this with Radeon 9000 pro and the pictures or whatever were just noise. Otherwise looked like it was working ok. Thus a piggie.
From what I could see so far, it rocks hard. Definitely one of the best demos this year.
I got GF4200Ti and it crushed at 80% loading... :(
GREAT DEMO! Immortality COCOON!
I Like Music!!! I'ts ROXXX!!! Respect to SLY!
It's not stupid not-original pop demo, it's RAW CONFESSION!
COCOON CO_COOL!!! I'm loose my mind! Great Demo from Great Groop.
I Like Music!!! I'ts ROXXX!!! Respect to SLY!
It's not stupid not-original pop demo, it's RAW CONFESSION!
COCOON CO_COOL!!! I'm loose my mind! Great Demo from Great Groop.
Music by Syl East. New Year=vodka, beer=drunk mind:)
wow i finally managed to find someone with a recent geforce to watch this,
as the previous shad demos, it features an amazing quantity of graphics, really really few demos have such amount of good graphics. just for that, respect to you cocoon for taking the time to make such big demos.
as itself, i don't like the demo very much, here and here some graphical flaws that weren't in the previous shads, the music isn't my cup of tea, even if it has nothing wrong, the story is confuse and the ending scene is very disapointing (but you can fix it in the final version :)
still i love the rendering techniques used at some times, i would have loved it, if it was using this weird dream/nightmare rendering during the whole demo.
as the previous shad demos, it features an amazing quantity of graphics, really really few demos have such amount of good graphics. just for that, respect to you cocoon for taking the time to make such big demos.
as itself, i don't like the demo very much, here and here some graphical flaws that weren't in the previous shads, the music isn't my cup of tea, even if it has nothing wrong, the story is confuse and the ending scene is very disapointing (but you can fix it in the final version :)
still i love the rendering techniques used at some times, i would have loved it, if it was using this weird dream/nightmare rendering during the whole demo.
eshe raz po-russki: ohuitel'no!!!!!!!!!
p.s. Group:)
p.s. Group:)
2cocoon guys: i could't see the demo coz i have no gf3 =), i have tnt2 =)... but why u going to release avi u can make a new engine as Alex Evans aka Statix done.. i mean u have u make new step of demo development... avi convertor i every demo... for every platform... at least for pc =).. thanx... i hope ill like your demo..
Really great production from cocoon again!
Would maybe suggest a new group-slogan like:
Cocoon - The DARK Side Of The Scene!
;-DD
Really 'horror-style' scenes like in previous demos! HEAVY graphics (typical cool nytrik style!! The name says it all!! A Quality man!!)
Hardrock music fits very nice to the whole atmosphere...(although it's not my real taste of music though!)
For me my personal favourite - speaking of perfect fitting music (4 different tracks!!) with atmospheric dark horror-style - still is SHAD 1 !! So I'm _really_ missing a win32 version of this great old demo...for future preservation!! :-) (Hint! Hint! Hint! ;-)))) )
Aynways...Cocoon is doing a GREAT job with their prods and I really hope to see LOTS more of various releases in the future from them!
They simply rule! (group-members as well as releases! ;-) )
Would maybe suggest a new group-slogan like:
Cocoon - The DARK Side Of The Scene!
;-DD
Really 'horror-style' scenes like in previous demos! HEAVY graphics (typical cool nytrik style!! The name says it all!! A Quality man!!)
Hardrock music fits very nice to the whole atmosphere...(although it's not my real taste of music though!)
For me my personal favourite - speaking of perfect fitting music (4 different tracks!!) with atmospheric dark horror-style - still is SHAD 1 !! So I'm _really_ missing a win32 version of this great old demo...for future preservation!! :-) (Hint! Hint! Hint! ;-)))) )
Aynways...Cocoon is doing a GREAT job with their prods and I really hope to see LOTS more of various releases in the future from them!
They simply rule! (group-members as well as releases! ;-) )
reboots my sys (winxp+p4@2.4+ti4200)
cant wait for the final
cant wait for the final
There is a lot of work on this demo, but it's not my cup of tea...
Fuckin great, i especially liked the music and the "twisted" 3d-scene.
ok... now i even managed to watch this.
the music sucks ass but the visuals (models+textures+engine) sure rock as hell!
the music sucks ass but the visuals (models+textures+engine) sure rock as hell!
final version rules. kinda slow in some parts (atleast on my machine :), but the amount of quality work that went into this demo alone makes it worth a thumbs-up, even though i generally don't like metal-demos much :)
i admire the great amount of work done, i admire the great music, i admire some of the visuals, but somehow still misses the feeling of a rulez demo.
The general mood was nicely Cocoonish, I enjoyed this demo a lot. If there's something you need to work on, it's the character animation.. now it looks quite harsh. smoother movements would be a great thing for your next killerdemo.
Absolutely fucking sweet. As sweet as shaved pussy!
As I don't have ps-compliant video card at the moment, the divx version is real plus.
Very impressive amount of work here. I really loved the music and the rythm of the demo.
Long life to such a good demo :)
Very impressive amount of work here. I really loved the music and the rythm of the demo.
Long life to such a good demo :)
great artwork.. depth of field kickass.. but.. i hate the music! i'm sorry.. happy pig once again.
It really didn't touch me at all ... didn't even manage to wake me up at the party place. And when looking at the avi, i admire the work, the lipsynch, the touches of design that make the demo constantly be dynamic (multiply layered dynamism, like this zombie head speaking over a highly scrolling background, or the image morphing at the beginning of the "kids" scene)
But there's basically nothing in it I enjoy. Perhaps i'm prejudiced against the end of XXth century look and derivative ideas.
But there's basically nothing in it I enjoy. Perhaps i'm prejudiced against the end of XXth century look and derivative ideas.
okay, a well deserved thumb at last.
final version works okay, no real slowdowns on athlon1700+/384ddr/gf3ti200/det42.01, which is not too surprising, because the guys really tried to keep the polycount as low as they could (some of the constructions in the title scene are just cylinders with alpha texture, the staircase that the little girl runs on is actually flat, etc..). but most of the modeling and texturing is really cool, head and shoulders above the current scene 'standarts'. the music sounds somewhat fucked-up, like badly mixed or overcompressed, or dunno what.. still it's an ace track, and it's not ripped which is certainly a bonus nowadays. 8) most of the synchs could be improved, there are moments when the music goes all manic, while the camera is just slowly flying thru some corridors... but the talking head is what really steals the show, even despite the fact that it's not really lipsynched, it's just opening its mouth in a fixed pattern... 8)
final version works okay, no real slowdowns on athlon1700+/384ddr/gf3ti200/det42.01, which is not too surprising, because the guys really tried to keep the polycount as low as they could (some of the constructions in the title scene are just cylinders with alpha texture, the staircase that the little girl runs on is actually flat, etc..). but most of the modeling and texturing is really cool, head and shoulders above the current scene 'standarts'. the music sounds somewhat fucked-up, like badly mixed or overcompressed, or dunno what.. still it's an ace track, and it's not ripped which is certainly a bonus nowadays. 8) most of the synchs could be improved, there are moments when the music goes all manic, while the camera is just slowly flying thru some corridors... but the talking head is what really steals the show, even despite the fact that it's not really lipsynched, it's just opening its mouth in a fixed pattern... 8)
RULES...the sound quality is bad though. sterio seperation is BADLY needed.
But it is an instant favorite of mine.
why does it take so long to load?
But it is an instant favorite of mine.
why does it take so long to load?
HELL YEAH!
Watched the video.
Downpoints:
- Lipsync is actually more amusing, than stunning.
- The screenmorphs are sucky a bit.
- The kids' animation was underdone.
- No _real_ musicsync.
BUT:
- Totally awesome gfx-work, as in modelling, textures and animation.
- Cool music
- The 'hospital'-scene was done excellent!
- I really love the fact that this demo is totally orthogonal to the usual style of demos.
SIR YES SIR I WANT MORE SIR!
Watched the video.
Downpoints:
- Lipsync is actually more amusing, than stunning.
- The screenmorphs are sucky a bit.
- The kids' animation was underdone.
- No _real_ musicsync.
BUT:
- Totally awesome gfx-work, as in modelling, textures and animation.
- Cool music
- The 'hospital'-scene was done excellent!
- I really love the fact that this demo is totally orthogonal to the usual style of demos.
SIR YES SIR I WANT MORE SIR!
(who is Simon Robinson?)
(and what are the lyrics? :)
I'm surprised that DiamonDie hasn't yet commented how this production crashes on her WinXP with onboard graphics and therefore sucks.
The one thing that stops me from giving this a thumb up is the music, if that is its real name.. The visuals are stunning but the mus.. eh, sound is really, really bad. I had to turn off the music to be able to watch through the entire demo.
This one is the house rocker of the last months. I absolutely love it.
Agressive music, outstanding 3d scenes, great texture work, great scripting, etc. etc.
And last but not least: It continues with the scary/doom style of shad/shad 2. I absolutely dig that
All my respects!
Agressive music, outstanding 3d scenes, great texture work, great scripting, etc. etc.
And last but not least: It continues with the scary/doom style of shad/shad 2. I absolutely dig that
All my respects!
ok for me...
The best points are:
* Technique
* Modells+ilumination
* Overall Idea
The Worst Points:
* Lack of interest cause has very poor sincronism, and in some sequences the music has nothing to do with the action. I'm not saying the music is bad. but there's no relation between music changes and action.
* Has no design or at least a neat story line.
Conclusion, good weapons for massive destruction, but the design storyline work behind the code is not at the same level.
For example, demo Colouir 14+ has a overall CLEAR theme, easy to swallow and has identity.
I know it's true I was expecting so much than this from Cocoon, I'm being so exigent. Sorry
The best points are:
* Technique
* Modells+ilumination
* Overall Idea
The Worst Points:
* Lack of interest cause has very poor sincronism, and in some sequences the music has nothing to do with the action. I'm not saying the music is bad. but there's no relation between music changes and action.
* Has no design or at least a neat story line.
Conclusion, good weapons for massive destruction, but the design storyline work behind the code is not at the same level.
For example, demo Colouir 14+ has a overall CLEAR theme, easy to swallow and has identity.
I know it's true I was expecting so much than this from Cocoon, I'm being so exigent. Sorry
Here's my thumb, reasons follow:
1) Too fucking long loading time, and it doesn't stop until the demo is over
2) Leaves a process hanging that consumes about 20+ mb of ram
3) The poorly animated kids at the end of the demo, the demo would've been a lot better without them
1) Too fucking long loading time, and it doesn't stop until the demo is over
2) Leaves a process hanging that consumes about 20+ mb of ram
3) The poorly animated kids at the end of the demo, the demo would've been a lot better without them
I like Cocoon Style ... but ...
- This demo eat too much memory and processor...
- too often synchro's problems ...
Cocoon ... Please... respect old-school's rules
But ... I Like It :-)
- This demo eat too much memory and processor...
- too often synchro's problems ...
Cocoon ... Please... respect old-school's rules
But ... I Like It :-)
I think it really STINKS and it's way too SATANIC excuse me while I go puke.
As a design/idea it was very cool. I have seen it through the AVI. But only one thing. Me and myself haven't understood where the hell are there pixel shader used ;P We just can't recognise it and we really wish to see how pixel shaders look like. In the face? Where??? It's just not visible through the AVI and just looks like any other regular GF2 demo in our eyes..
Ugh, ugh, ugh...
what the heck have I written now!!!
My and myself, uhg.. ma god. I might be a second personality ;PPP
I meaned, me and my friend (just a friend)
Herhere..
Alcohol still remaining in my blood, since that night..
what the heck have I written now!!!
My and myself, uhg.. ma god. I might be a second personality ;PPP
I meaned, me and my friend (just a friend)
Herhere..
Alcohol still remaining in my blood, since that night..
hey, even the divx is lagging on my p4 1.8 machine :P
anyway thumb up finally, i changed my mind about the demo.. never seen a demo like this before actually.
-- for the tv-screen clichés, and the final scene..
++ for the amazing dream/nightmare rendering..
anyway thumb up finally, i changed my mind about the demo.. never seen a demo like this before actually.
-- for the tv-screen clichés, and the final scene..
++ for the amazing dream/nightmare rendering..
The only thing 'satanic' about this demo is the way it eats up my virtual memory. I'll need more memory to watch it without stuttering. Looks cool, though.
"shifter: stfu, I have no clue what gf4 it is I won 4 of em at Dreamhack... I dont think its an MX"
how can you know they ain't no MX'es if you have no clue what kind of cards they are anyway? (btw: looking that up is not as hard as it seems).
how can you know they ain't no MX'es if you have no clue what kind of cards they are anyway? (btw: looking that up is not as hard as it seems).
i don't really like the demo..
I don't like the style, but all the effects are very nice, 3d engine is good, gfx are good, music is good, so even if i don't like the style i like this demo.
I have received the video now and so I could watch the demo. The scenes are looking really excellent, but on the other side it impresses me not that much. No intense feeling at all, maybe also coz the music is a bit to aggressive for my taste.
its a fucking great demo :)
cocoon are my idols :)
cocoon are my idols :)
Very Sexy indeed! The music sucked, but the scenes were really nice. I didn't like the manga-esque characters tho. They didn't seem to fit the scenes properly.
Definately not my style. Not worth a thumb down tho, there was some cool stuff and the design was coherent. The boy in the end reminds me of Akira :-)
I forgot to add that the loading time is way too long
Yeah, another fantastic Product from the Scene - Love it :) Dark and Horror are really Cool *gg*
Yeah, another fantastic Product from the Scene - Love it :) Dark and Horror are really Cool *gg*
I watched the video and its a really good demo. Great 3d and music.
Despite all the hard work that has obviously gone into this prod, I didn't like it at all.
- insanely long load time.
- didn't work in my GF3, had to wait for the 9700 to see it (without anything that warrants such requirements)
- music tries to be powerful but turns out just loud and noisy
- graphics have style - bad style. Try to be stanic, but end up just looking ugly.
- interesting effects or techniques are non-existant.
- no flow or rythm to speak of.
- it all just seems to be way more ambitious than the authors could actually create.
Essentially, a huge pile of crappy stuff put together. Sorry for the bashing.
- insanely long load time.
- didn't work in my GF3, had to wait for the 9700 to see it (without anything that warrants such requirements)
- music tries to be powerful but turns out just loud and noisy
- graphics have style - bad style. Try to be stanic, but end up just looking ugly.
- interesting effects or techniques are non-existant.
- no flow or rythm to speak of.
- it all just seems to be way more ambitious than the authors could actually create.
Essentially, a huge pile of crappy stuff put together. Sorry for the bashing.
technically perfect, it competes honorably with the latest video games, but lacks some originality ...
i always have the impression that the cocoon guys try to continue the Shad series, but it lacks the particular mood that brought us Shad 1 & 2, although it is replaced by blood, gore, manga-like bomb-babies ; not the best idea for this prod imho
however, a technically perfect production, which should reside on all dark and noisy demo lovers' hard disks
i always have the impression that the cocoon guys try to continue the Shad series, but it lacks the particular mood that brought us Shad 1 & 2, although it is replaced by blood, gore, manga-like bomb-babies ; not the best idea for this prod imho
however, a technically perfect production, which should reside on all dark and noisy demo lovers' hard disks
final version perfectly work at radeon 9000, xp.
a bit dark for me, a damn good prod however, with impressive rendering and visuals. and i love the music!
I hadn't actually seen this before the scene.org awards, but I absolutely loved it, the dark style.
Sure. We know TV feeds us lies and porno makes us sinners. There is no god and we all suffer.
Pretty good for 15 year old french guys with teen-angst forever.
Kill yourselves now - don't make demos about it.
Sure, lotsa effort can be seen in this one, tho it also makes the creators seem more stupid and they show us blood and zombies "singing".
TRULY original.
Pretty good for 15 year old french guys with teen-angst forever.
Kill yourselves now - don't make demos about it.
Sure, lotsa effort can be seen in this one, tho it also makes the creators seem more stupid and they show us blood and zombies "singing".
TRULY original.
Bestial
visu is probably a good believing american.
god bless america!
and yes, this is STILL th best demo ever
god bless america!
and yes, this is STILL th best demo ever
thumb up for visus comment, another down for one of the ugliest scenes ever (in the screenshot). does it make a piggy?-)
(naah i just faintly remember it to have had something good as well)
(naah i just faintly remember it to have had something good as well)
oops that _was_ an accident. meant to click on the middle one:P
r00lz.
i like the good work, not shit party
damn, this is fucking great :) really bad i wasn't able to see it til now!
I think originality is what really makes this demo great, so I disagree with Visu. Eventhough the style may not be liked by everyone (not everyone is into these gory visions), but still you HAVE to admit that Cocoon is the only group who manages to do this style properly, which makes this kind of a production a very rare phenomena. If you mean that they repeat themselves... well, we know several groups who do that :)
I had to watch the avi version, but specs aside I was very impressed by the modelling, graphics and the general concept. Typically dark Cocoon style, but more chilling and less tacky than similarly themed releases.
The music was ok, but I think more atmosphere could have been achieved with an incidental or more downbeat soundtrack.
The music was ok, but I think more atmosphere could have been achieved with an incidental or more downbeat soundtrack.
finally i can watch this even in real time :)
sound and visuals are great. definately one of the most atmospheric shows around.
sound and visuals are great. definately one of the most atmospheric shows around.
Yes. Definitely yes. Watched it several times in a row on a beamer with nice stereo => blows you away!! Advanced to one of my favourite demos instantly.
rockz
fuckingreat
Legalize Murder!
"oh my god they show us blood!"
"oh and this music! it's not even music!"
-> anybody said lamers?
this rocks like hell!!! thanks to cocoon for wasting your time for this...
"oh and this music! it's not even music!"
-> anybody said lamers?
this rocks like hell!!! thanks to cocoon for wasting your time for this...
Not exactly uber-impressive from a technical standpoint (although the animation of the zombie head is quite nice and there's a few good effects in it), but the artwork and music is class.
"My dad sent me to piss the world OFF"
I finally got to see this realtime with my new card.
Thank you for not making yet another, artsy fartsy trancy-dancy pretty little boring demo. Dark, agressive, disturbing... ahhh, what a relief from the norm. Let's see more!
Maybe the boys t-shirt was an omen to the future, let's piss the scene off some more.
I finally got to see this realtime with my new card.
Thank you for not making yet another, artsy fartsy trancy-dancy pretty little boring demo. Dark, agressive, disturbing... ahhh, what a relief from the norm. Let's see more!
Maybe the boys t-shirt was an omen to the future, let's piss the scene off some more.
I can only agree with troll; after getting my Radeon 9600 XT i could finally see this at home. Aggressive, welldesigned and not least: STYLISH! Just love the soundtrack; this demo is on my top ten pc demo list of all time. For more of the same (from much the same team) check out Syndrome's "Hardcore" [amiga] :)
uah, i feel soo frightened : )
good music, cameras, design, everything..
good music, cameras, design, everything..
we need the lyrics! we need the lyrics! so we know anything besides 'GOOD BOY, GOOD GIRL!' :)
maali, you surely also understood 'dog is god' =)
seriously, the lyrics are available somewhere (i remember gargaj having them up somewhere?)
seriously, the lyrics are available somewhere (i remember gargaj having them up somewhere?)
I really liked the music and the zombies :)
This isn't my thing, I think. :-)
not so funky music.
i'm rather amazed by the low amount of huge thumb ups here. this ROCKS!!
and it gave me the shivers during sota02. it was scary. on such a screen and with such sound.
and it gave me the shivers during sota02. it was scary. on such a screen and with such sound.
great music and visuals
beurk
a bit too direct to be scary really. The textures and models are really cool though.. The best part is the people hanging from the ceiling.. looking forward to more cocoon demos.. They'll get the evil right in the end :)
Not my favorite zik style, but nice models and textures, with rather impressive visual content.
quite cool but i miss some shadows
rules
choice bro
i generally don't like metal, but this demo looks great...
strange and not my taste
more... more... more...
I was forced by random conspiracy sceners to listen to the soundtrack of this prod a thousand times to try and figure out the lyrics before I even saw it. i fucking hate it now. but the prod is nifty. but gaagh my brain MY BRAiiIIIIiin
i have lyrics of this demo and text very cool.
works very good on my new computer (I was only able to watch the video before).
this prod rocks!
+ virtual thumb up !
this prod rocks!
+ virtual thumb up !
Excellent work.
CPU burns, mem is going...whatever.
I love it!
I love it!
Great work. Even though I don't like engine only demos.
Not bad guys!
The character animation, especially from the kids, is not bad.
The character animation, especially from the kids, is not bad.
Larger than life EvilDemo. Not particularly creative on the audio front... but some to-die-for graphics: rich deep textures and creepy 3D modelling. Good stuff.
Pretty nice. It's a tech demo though and that might lessen the impact in the future - or it might not if we've come far enough... Still, it's visually pleasing as well just like cocoon prods have been. Like it or not they've got an unique demostyle if not the most experimental one.
this is the demo.
this one is great.
it used to run on my radeon9550 somehow, but apparently it doesn't run with new drivers.
actually, i have to congratulate for giving me a blue screen - haven't seen one in AGES! :D
it used to run on my radeon9550 somehow, but apparently it doesn't run with new drivers.
actually, i have to congratulate for giving me a blue screen - haven't seen one in AGES! :D
Also nice one!
Bahh.. One of them i have not commented until now.. here my Thumb up... Dark and creepy athomosphere... Powerful Music - This one Rocks
VISUALS++++++++
MUSIC++++++++!!!
YES! must seen!
MUSIC++++++++!!!
YES! must seen!
SD characters animation sucks. But hey, all the rest... unsurpassed!
One of the scariest beautifull demos ever ;)
yeh! great demo! in my top-10.
oh no comment yet?
great!
great!
Cool GFX and Music.
oh yeah this is good stuff
now that i have the hardware, i can enjoy it !
congrats
congrats
This is amazing.
Been listening to some Laibach? ;)
Been listening to some Laibach? ;)
i don't know why i didn't thumb this yet.
how have i not rated this one? i looooove of course. :) :) :)
love it :D
why the hell did I miss that ? Great job dudes !!
obviously
for the technique. I just deleted it immediately, just for the guitars.
Nice modeling.
scary movie! great artwork, code and everything!
truly great coding and graphics. It has stayed in my memory for long. The cocoon guys are top !
whooaww ... that one's been scary ... music really fits to the scenery - nothing else to say ... except thumbs up !!!
Damn there are retarded comments here.
Retarded comments or not, this demo simply rocks! :) Everything fits so well together, nice graphics/style, music etc. Simply a great demo.
saw this ages ago.. and liked it! the scene in the screenshot is just classic!
Space :D
Sick! But I like it...
(wtf... didn't comment it as well?)
It made me cry at the party place.
It made me cry at the party place.
Great demo.
no thumb from me ??? arggh shame on me, this is true legend
My piggie didn't get slaughtered so I didn't get any bacon.
i finally managed to get that true beast to run.
it's evil. ;)
it's evil. ;)
great!
one of the best demos.
Amazing stuff
this is so mad.... some nice stuff as well, though.
(graphics + social commentary) - (music + gore) = pig
yeeees !
Awesome visuals, but the music *really* isn't my cup of tea :)
wow
geil
harr!
yep
oops. second try
It's fucken creepy as hell, but I like it so much. Graphics is just awesome, so the music is.
"i forgot to give the mandatory thumbs up" post
HUGE ORC DICKS
see: dwarf's comment.
ok on closer analysis this fucking owns
Very nice and extremly underrated (like thumbs down for 'it does not run here')
+ dark theme
+ music
+ pale bald woman
+ graphical details e.g. screens and t-shirts
- too short ;)
I really would like to know, what exactly is written on the last boys t-shirt. Some here suggested it was 'My dad sent me to piss the world off' but if you are looking closer, you'll see that the 3rd word only has three letters.
Even after doing a capture to zoom at it I can't tell what's the third word on that t-shirt. Anyone who knows it, please reply.
At the end it's for sure a thumb up.
+ dark theme
+ music
+ pale bald woman
+ graphical details e.g. screens and t-shirts
- too short ;)
I really would like to know, what exactly is written on the last boys t-shirt. Some here suggested it was 'My dad sent me to piss the world off' but if you are looking closer, you'll see that the 3rd word only has three letters.
Even after doing a capture to zoom at it I can't tell what's the third word on that t-shirt. Anyone who knows it, please reply.
At the end it's for sure a thumb up.
pure perfection!
Fucking awesome!
yay, way to go :D
really ace shit !
really ace shit !
BLAAAH BLABLABLABLABLABLABLABLAAH! BLAAAH BLABLABLABLABLABLABLABLAAH!
lol, comedy gold...
lol, comedy gold...
Really, really good trip!
Family entertainment
Should be noted that I'm watching this in 2013 .. but .. visuals are kinda good and interesting, movements are a bit choppy in the way of the era.
Unfortunately the soundtrack kills it completely for me, and the rest does not compensate enough. Mostly the whole experience left me a bit confused.
Unfortunately the soundtrack kills it completely for me, and the rest does not compensate enough. Mostly the whole experience left me a bit confused.
Great intense trip through anger and fear, kickass track!
kinda nice.
Clunky, rough around the edges, brown, inappropriate, gamelike and as angry as a teenager can be.
Slightly disturbing, slightly awesome
this is so fucking great. even tho i don't know the lyrics
Not my cup, but kind of cool anyway.
I hated this when it was new. Well, I kind of still hate it, but nowadays it's enjoyable in a very campy way.
FUCKING INSANE!
Graphics!
What cce said. Possibly the most graphically and visually interesting 3D scene based demo of the era. Loses the steam gradually though and for the last minute or so you're just waiting for it to end already. Also perhaps features the first (albeit subtle) depth of field implementation on GPU hardware in a demo? Any earlier ones?
even to this day im still wondering about the lyrics (like some other people do). would thumb up again if i could
really nice technically and what a vibe
GeForce 3 needed? Didn't download.
...
Just kidding. This is awesome.
...
Just kidding. This is awesome.
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