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Only one criticism: WHERE ARE THE LIGHT TRAILS. THERE'S _GOT_ TO BE LIGHT TRAILS.
rulez added on the 2013-08-04 21:08:02 by visy 
this. is. cool. extremely.
Browser 4k of unprecedented detail. Nice.
Goddamn incredible.
I wish I knew how compression works in all this browser stuff.
I wish I knew how compression works in all this browser stuff.
AMAZING!
How long did you work on this prod ? This sets the bar for web 4k intros to come.
How long did you work on this prod ? This sets the bar for web 4k intros to come.
Amazing! What Gfx card this is aimed for? On my HD4850 it looks like this.
clear winner!
4k? you've got to be fucking kidding me...
Best. Very very nice!
marvellous!
Looked very nice on the big screen and definitely stood out from the other entries in the compo. Clear winner!
p01: If I remember correctly, Abyss asked Bercon how many hours he spent on making this and the answer was "around 300 hours".
p01: If I remember correctly, Abyss asked Bercon how many hours he spent on making this and the answer was "around 300 hours".
I prefer real binaries.
firebug:Thanks.
las: What's the difference/problem o_O ?
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As I thought: ~2 months worth of full time work to get "there". That confirms my .Around 300 hours.
las: What's the difference/problem o_O ?
hm, my ff (22.0) seems to have trouble handling the file. it shows aprox. 1/3 page of random characters and then a script error dialog.
...confirms that there's no easy way to make a 4k people want to watch again, and again.
what wysiwtf said.
HBC goes realtime. Nice one!
:O
I've tried all I can to get this to run, but it just won't. Is there a capture somewhere?
Nice one, and what Visy said...
didnt work for me in chrome, but ran fine in FF, and wow amazing rendering, such high quality, pity the music was only so-so, never the less a massive rulez!
Compressed with this trickery? http://www.iamcal.com/png-store/
But yeah, very very cool. Didn't think 4k webgl could work with audio included.
flynn approves!
Best JS 4k so far, Bercon you really did an amazing job.
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las: What's the difference/problem o_O ?
- Not the real deal. If it isn't a native binary, it's not the real thing.
- Massive precalc time on FF.
- Had to click the "script screwed up" dialog away several times (until I checkboxed it away...).
- The current state of WebGL & Angle still sucks. ;)
Nevertheless the intro is nice - but well, see above.
Wow!
Shiny and corgeous, great work..
I don't know what to make of this? It's actually quite cool, but then again, not much is happening, and music is really bad imo. With more interesting direction and a bit more action between the bikes it would have been a thumb up - as it is, it's a piggie.
the camera work is quite awesome !
This was really surprising, and nice. :) The music was pretty basic and not really good, but the rendering and some of the design choices were downright brilliant. I wish there was a story-payoff in the end though (there's a race, two racers, and no climax).
Exactly what gloom and visy said.
javala: It uses the same trick as pretty much all JS prods now, which takes the trick you found one or two steps further. It's called PNG bootstraping,and JSexe is the most efficient tool to date for this is.
las: With all respect to what Mozilla does, Firefox lives in the past regarding threading. So looking forward to Servo. In the meantime try in Opera or Chrome. Agreed, ANGLE and webGL are still in a strange state but it doesn't make this platform invalid or null. About the "binary", I just don't see the point.
las: With all respect to what Mozilla does, Firefox lives in the past regarding threading. So looking forward to Servo. In the meantime try in Opera or Chrome. Agreed, ANGLE and webGL are still in a strange state but it doesn't make this platform invalid or null. About the "binary", I just don't see the point.
Worthy winner
The Intro is pretty nice!
I wonder what you save in bytes versus an executeable by putting it all in an image or however this trick works.
Am i the only one having got reminded on the Zak McKracken IntroTune in the beginning of the 4k ?
I wonder what you save in bytes versus an executeable by putting it all in an image or however this trick works.
Am i the only one having got reminded on the Zak McKracken IntroTune in the beginning of the 4k ?
What break said.
Cool shit
I'm sure Firefox lives in the past but at least doesn't crash when running this, because Chrome did, every single time I tried. Hilariously, it only works in Firefox if I keep moving the mouse.
Anyway, great direction and high visual quality but I can't help thinking this could be done properly as a native intro with an actual synth and probably 3 times the framerate.
Anyway, great direction and high visual quality but I can't help thinking this could be done properly as a native intro with an actual synth and probably 3 times the framerate.
what gloom said
this one doesn't really catch me (maybe it's the basic music), but i appreciate the approach.
really nice shader. the music could have been made hugely better by simple improvements like replacing the hideous kick drum with just about anything else
the web platform generally sucks at the moment, but i guess it'll get more mature in the future
the web platform generally sucks at the moment, but i guess it'll get more mature in the future
This was great fun. The usual tricks but used to make something that feels different and cohesive. Thoroughly enjoyable!
It's totally amazing, liked every bit! :D
Wow!
yum.
I really expected the mindbenders to pop up instead of tronbikes.
Fucking more cool than Tron Legacy.
Thanks for all the comments! The intro is using jsexe to compress it to png. The reason why it is crashing other browsers than Firefox is audio generation (this is also why it takes 30-60 seconds to start). Song was done using Sonant Live and its player (heavily optimized/stripped down). This means the audio is first written as base64 encoded string which is then converted to Audio element. This takes so much memory (>1GB) that it crashes Chrome and Opera pretty often. Without the audio this would run on Chrome/Opera/Firefox without problems.
I will post source code with comments later this week.
I will post source code with comments later this week.
music is too repetitive and there's only one scene, but it's quite good nevertheless.
Bercon: Funny, that you use the hashing from Micro Nova. The one I used later is more compact. Also, with webGL you should REALLY ditch setInterval(foo,16) and use requestAnimationFrame(foo) otherwise the GPU drivers crash too easily. Also have you tried to generate the audio at a slightly lower frequency or in mono to cut the precalc time ?
Poi, when we see you back on Atari ST?
p01: I seem to have missed that then. I tried some hashing functions found on net and tried multiple of my own, but this was the best of the all I tested. Thanks for this one anyway :)
I actually tried requestAnimationFrame(), but for some reason it crashed even more than setInterval(), so I ditched it, but that was months ago, so perhaps browsers are better with it nowdays.
The music is repetitive mainly because of the extreme restraints I set to King Thrill who made the music. It had to fit into less than 1kb with the player when compressed. I think he made an amazing job. This was my first real time production and I wanted to put the emphasis on graphics, so those were done first and music had to fit into the space that was left.
I'll write short making of along with the commented source codes which will probably answer more of your questions. Thanks again for amazing response!
I actually tried requestAnimationFrame(), but for some reason it crashed even more than setInterval(), so I ditched it, but that was months ago, so perhaps browsers are better with it nowdays.
The music is repetitive mainly because of the extreme restraints I set to King Thrill who made the music. It had to fit into less than 1kb with the player when compressed. I think he made an amazing job. This was my first real time production and I wanted to put the emphasis on graphics, so those were done first and music had to fit into the space that was left.
I'll write short making of along with the commented source codes which will probably answer more of your questions. Thanks again for amazing response!
Poi,
How about next time to do conversion of Dim's magnicifient European Demos Total Full screen in .js?
How about next time to do conversion of Dim's magnicifient European Demos Total Full screen in .js?
Bercon: Strange, requestAnimationFrame was definitely more stable for me on my underpowered Asus EEE.
Looking forward to the making of and your next realtime prod!
moredhel: Don't worry, I'll be back on Atari. But family life takes priority over demo life.
Looking forward to the making of and your next realtime prod!
moredhel: Don't worry, I'll be back on Atari. But family life takes priority over demo life.
Would have ruled so much as executable...
Looks beautiful, but lacks heavily on atmosphere and variety. I prefer some of the other ASM 4k's more.
good effect, and cuts, and decent sound, thumb up for that. but it _really_ should have ended 1 minute earlier.
There were better releases years ago. The soundtrack is especially disappointing, sound and composition wise. Sorry.
Awesome in every aspect but it does not work with ff22. I just see the content of the file. Any ideas what is going wrong?
Oh dear! After clicking away the annoying dialog several times to continue, it works now very slowly.
cool little intro! But, also what gargaj said about native code...
How could going native result in 2x or even 3x the framerate using the same shaders ? Is the RTT much slower in webGL ?
O_o--b
Dans ta face
Had to "Yes, I want to continue running this script" twice, but works reasonably fast (not completely smooth in some spots) but definitely nice looking.
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WHERE ARE THE LIGHT TRAILS. THERE'S _GOT_ TO BE LIGHT TRAILS.
Nice one
Kind of long for the content and the audio isn't really up to par with the visuals. Still, it's nice to see that javascript can actually compete.
elsewhere:
nice you like it and try to support it, but keep who you are, just say what you think: it sucks! ;)
(too bad about my plans of HBC ruling the scene, when i told em to get a coder already years ago, but...)
...i love it except too long, bad music, natives would need about minimum 500b more to just get a window and music!)
..i made a mistake myself, i thumbed it up due to being on a selfish platform, platform being 10 years back in time wasn´t accounted when i did dat!
nice you like it and try to support it, but keep who you are, just say what you think: it sucks! ;)
(too bad about my plans of HBC ruling the scene, when i told em to get a coder already years ago, but...)
...i love it except too long, bad music, natives would need about minimum 500b more to just get a window and music!)
..i made a mistake myself, i thumbed it up due to being on a selfish platform, platform being 10 years back in time wasn´t accounted when i did dat!
hardy, you need to drink more, so that you pass out at once and stop posting crap.
Anyway, glow <3 tron <3 but the music could be a lot better. Still, good effort!
Anyway, glow <3 tron <3 but the music could be a lot better. Still, good effort!
Making of and source code can be found at: http://ylilammi.com/webgl/highway4k/
I liked this a lot, and despite what ppl say about the length and the music, it's really nice (I guess I appreciate the style). Hope you'll be using SoundBox next time...
Exactly what maytz said.
yeah !
i haven't really liked a 4k for a while. good work!
4k? javascript? pretty cool! nice take on the tron theme - even the music doesnt suck.
jco:
then
Did you watch the same intro twice or two different ones? :D
I really like this little piece of entertainment. It delivers on the visuals, but as already noted a couple of times, the music isn't all that interesting. The size it has to be done in is relly impressive, though. 1k for song data and synth is quite tough :) Great job!
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There were better releases years ago. The soundtrack is especially disappointing, sound and composition wise. Sorry.
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4k? javascript? pretty cool! nice take on the tron theme - even the music doesnt suck.
Did you watch the same intro twice or two different ones? :D
I really like this little piece of entertainment. It delivers on the visuals, but as already noted a couple of times, the music isn't all that interesting. The size it has to be done in is relly impressive, though. 1k for song data and synth is quite tough :) Great job!
Hmm, it didn't run in my Windows XP Pro. SP3's IE8 and Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.20 web browsers. I get garbled text results. Anyways, I watched the MP4 video capture. Not bad. :)
nice one
The quality of this prod speaks in favor of how far browser demos (and their makers) have come. Despite the overused Tron theme, the visuals are cool, and it was an entertaining trip overall.
I have mixed feelings on this one.
On one hand, it looks cool, has good animations, has decent camera paths (which is really rare in 4k intros), and good rendering.
On the other hand, this is very repetitive (the shots with distortion don't help at all), not much happens, the flash-synchro is dull, music is bland. The ending is terrible. You have elements of a story, it could have been great, but it's a bit wasted because of the lack of proper ending.
Overall, thumb up because of the good work, but I'm a bit disappointed: It could have been so much better.
On one hand, it looks cool, has good animations, has decent camera paths (which is really rare in 4k intros), and good rendering.
On the other hand, this is very repetitive (the shots with distortion don't help at all), not much happens, the flash-synchro is dull, music is bland. The ending is terrible. You have elements of a story, it could have been great, but it's a bit wasted because of the lack of proper ending.
Overall, thumb up because of the good work, but I'm a bit disappointed: It could have been so much better.
Cool stuff!
What LLB said :)
A bit repetitive but nice. Won't run here (win7 64bit chrome).
I have FF22 here, but it just shows something that looks like the contents of a png file, then the browser complains about an unresponsive script a couple of times, then nothing more happens..
Nice cameras and attention to paths and detail that must have cost quite a few bytes. Good work.
.EXE port please...this is not working. thanks.
Doesn't work here... no FF, no Chrome, nothing... once a music played.
TRON or die !
Geil!
As a 4k intro amongst other 4k intros, it's a rather mediocre achievement, barely beating stuff that was released up to ten years ago. The sounds are thin and the action barely par for the course (weak pun alert!).
But as a 4k in Javascript/WebGL, it's quite brilliant and certainly a milestone and probably the only ASM '13 thing that had some kind of wow factor to it.
But as a 4k in Javascript/WebGL, it's quite brilliant and certainly a milestone and probably the only ASM '13 thing that had some kind of wow factor to it.
I liked that a lot! There's nothing really new, tech-wise, but the demo is in js and had lots of style!
Stylish!
nice, but i don't believe in Javascript/WebGL as a reasonable platform for demos ;-)
I really liked how this had a strong, consistent theme in addition to looking great.
You better start believing in Javascript/WebGL prods RufUsul, you just thumbed up one.
What can I say. Tron in 4k _o/
Nice!
nice. but i really prefer your video animations.
No cheese counter? :'(
Quite nice.
o___o
massive
insane
nice
thumbs up for the visuals
Quite good, quite good indeed.
if this ran on any of my browsers (Chrome28, Chrome31, FF Aurora) this would really be top notch.. but the only thing that works seems to be the youtube video.. that just sucks.
I don't think Alcatraz has a monopoly on futuristic motorcycles.
@joe: Check the nfo ... runs on FF 22.
browser thingies are just so unreliable.
+ nice prod
- one and a half hours of precalc on FF29
+ scared the shit out of me for a moment by finishing precalc long after i had forgotten it in some tab while i was in bed reading and the volume was up. thumb for that.
+ nice prod
- one and a half hours of precalc on FF29
+ scared the shit out of me for a moment by finishing precalc long after i had forgotten it in some tab while i was in bed reading and the volume was up. thumb for that.
lagged a lot for me because I had about 100 tabs open, XD. But wow, that was brilliant.
awesome !!
Still inspiring!
nice
This crash my entire PC when running on Chrome... No problem of Firefox 38 and Waterfox 38 except it's painfully slow, even on a 2500K @ 4.7Ghz.
Now crash waterfox 43.0.4 too! :(
Youtube encode is artifacty, much better when run locally. If anything, a bit too long.
Nice first web 4k by bercon with a bunch of Tron infuences
nice
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